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Dec202012

A Possible Workaround for Pen Dynamic Feedback effects and Wacom tablets  

[Update on 2013–06–23] Please go here: The Windows and Wacom Tablet Nightmare is Over    

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Thanks to one of the readers of my previous post on the topic of Wacom tablets and Windows 8, there may be something that will remove the dynamic feedback effects.

Because I still do not believe this is the correct, long-term fix, I haven't incorporated into my Fix My Pen tool yet. Instead I've made a .REG file available that makes the changes.

The file is located here: http://sdrv.ms/ZW9CNG 

The name of the file is win8-disable-pen-dynamic-feedback.reg

Please download the .REG file, and run it. It will prompt you to make some registry changes, please let it do so. Once it is finished, you will probably have to reboot to see the effect. I can confirm it works on my system, but would like to see how well it works for others.

The contents of the .REG file are below

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Policies\Microsoft\TabletPC]
"TurnOffPenFeedback"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Cursors]
"ContactVisualization"=dword:00000000

 

 

The .REG file is based on the comments found on this thread: http://forum.wacom.eu/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11674 (see the comment made by Wacom on Mon 12. Nov 2012, 10:42)

More information concerning the registry keys this workaround uses:

Gesture Visualization (Windows)
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/hh924310(v=vs.85).aspx

Contact Visualization (Windows)
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/hh924309(v=vs.85).aspx

 


 

 

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Reader Comments (10)

@saveenr
I really appreciate this.

After running the .REG file, is there a way to revert the changes and get back to the default state?
In case a future driver will fix this issue properly it will be nice to be able to revert the changes.

You are saying that you don't believe this is a long-term fix.
Can you please explain why so we can ask Wacom in the forum for a better solution?

Thanks

December 20, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMark

@Mark

I've added another REG file called "win8-enable-pen-dynamic-feedback.reg" at the same location that puts the settings back to the default values.

Why it is not a long term fix

Basically, It still doesn't solve all the pen feedback issues. For example right-click still shows a think white ring. More seriously, even though press-and-hold seems disabled visually it still causes a momentary delay when you try to use UI controls like the Windows volume slider. (For some people this affects all sorts of UI in their applications and makes certain apps unusable)

What I think the correct thing to have is the settings the way they were back in Vista - when the pen and touch settings that existed completely controlled the behavior.

One more thing I am concerned about is that disabling these settings might have negative consequences when someone has a touchscreen display (as my Acer Apire S7 does) and is using a Wacom tablet. I didn't notice anything wrong in the brief period of time I tried it, but something may turn up later. And I expect we will see an increasing adoption of touch-sensitive standalone displays for desktop PCs, this is something Microsoft and Wacom should pay attention to.

December 20, 2012 | Registered Commentersaveenr

@Saveenr
Thank you for that.

I've been able to disable dynamic feedback without the REG file. Simply go to (in the windows 8) Control Panel\Hardware and Sound\Pen and Touch. Then go to Touch tab and uncheck the option "show visual feedback when touching the screen". No dynamic feedback here, and no other stuff, but my Wacom digitizer (Samsung Ativ Smart PC Pro) is still not working as well as I expected.

I have similar problems to those you show on http://vimeo.com/56363143 regarding dragging. It seems better than what is shown on your video, but there is still some pause when using the pen in comparison to using a mouse. Nevertheless, the pause only appears at first when clicking with the pen and then the dragging is good (it follows the pen accurate), as long as you don't lift the pen of the screen.

I am still not satisfied, since i'm using the pen to take notes in online services in Internet Explorer (IE), Firefox (FF) and Google Chrome. Surprisingly, IE works great, namely there is no pause at all. However, both FF and Google Chrome suffer from the pause problem. It is annoying since IE is definitively not my favorite browser.

Hope you could find this information useful.

Thanks,

January 6, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterWer

@saveenr

I've found the following posts:
http://www.eightforums.com/tablet-touch/16745-pen-needs-moved-least-10px-before-drags.html

He describes the same dragging delay i have. I thought if i could add the appropriate registry keys of chrome.exe and firefox.exe to PenService it could solve the problem for them. Do you think it could help?

Thanks

January 7, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterWer

@Wer - thanks for the link to http://www.eightforums.com/tablet-touch/16745-pen-needs-moved-least-10px-before-drags.html

I read the article and I do believe It might help, but here are my concerns:
- It may affect non-pen usage (pen and touch settings seem to have been mixed-up in Windows 8 so that makes me wonder what consequences this solution will have)
- It seems one has to (1) specify each app's GUID individually and (2) it's not trivial to find the that GUID

Ultimately I think we need a better solution from Microsoft - where "better" means make the system work the way it used to in Vista.

January 7, 2013 | Registered Commentersaveenr

@saveenr This fix of the drag delay mentioned in the comments seems promising, but can someone explain to us mere mortals what value do I need to put into the registry and where? Are they GUID-s of applications? If you or anyone else could just explain this clearly, it would be a better world for all wacom tablet owners.

April 27, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterMarci

@Marci - My apologies for not making his more clear. The easiest way to get this done is just to download the win8-disable-pen-dynamic-feedback.reg file that is located here: http://sdrv.ms/ZW9CNG and then open it. It should set the registry correctly.

April 27, 2013 | Registered Commentersaveenr

Thanks for responding. I'm a little confused over this, as I was referring to the "drag delay" explained in @Wer's comment (January 6, 2013), and it's possible solution explained in @Wer's other comment (January 7, 2013).

Since you responded to them (January 7, 2013), and also written:

It seems one has to (1) specify each app's GUID individually and (2) it's not trivial to find the that GUID

I wanted to ask for help on figuring out the GUID and the exact entries I might need to add to the registry to disable the delay for a specific program.

As far as I understand the reg files you provided in this post solves the annoying pen feedback effects, not the drag delay. It seems to me these are separate issues.

April 30, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterMarci

@Marci - Thanks for clarifying. I looked at the article mentioned by @Wer in greater detail just now.

The registry key mentioned is HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\PenService
And from what I see the only thing than can be controlled are the flick gestures and not the drag-delay.

May 1, 2013 | Registered Commentersaveenr

@Marci and @saveenr

I wasn't able to do anything with the GUIDs in the mentioned PenService registry key.
For now, my S pen (Samsng ATIV Smart PC pro) works great in Internet Explorer 10 under Windows 8 but works terribly in Firefox and Goggle Chrome browsers. Unfortunately, neither Microsoft nor Wacom have no solution for the problem so far.

So, for now, I'm using my S pen in Internet Explorer browser but uses Firefox or Chrome for "casual" surfing.

Thanks

May 28, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterWer

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